[Crozier you’re arguing with a teenager.

He sighs.]

Discounting the direct murder and maiming of scores of people seems like an inefficient way to judge a person’s character, but your point is taken. Thank you.

Hopefully this has been a constructive dialogue, and not just an old man yelling. [Now he’s looking around the room.] I just wish…

I wish to prevent another catastrophe. That’s all.